[QUOTE=Sandbag-I would think they a

[QUOTE=Sandbag-I would think they are refering to denatured alcohol (methanol) available at hardware stores across the US.
^Tips and a little safety info...make sure everything is well ventilated...this is how people blow themselves up and make tweakers look like special-ed chemists^

PS. Feel free to ask if something is unclear...I'll do my best to put it in layman's terms and if I can't I know there are others who can.

PPS. Mods, if this is too close to posting a synth procedure feel free to edit/delete my post. I could just PM her a link or two or something instead.[/QUOTE]

Minor correction: hardware alcohol is usually ethanol, with a bit of methanol to denature it, and substantial water. One is better off using "Heet" (dry gas) which is pretty pure methanol. Still needs to be dried.

Your safety points are very well taken. Acetone is as flammable as fuck.

fasteddie said:
08-06-2007 00:22
Quote Originally Posted by NikkiNumberNine
Thank you Sandbag, that helps a lot! You rock.

I also don't want to post anything I should not, and I was hoping that asking to have something that's in the BL FAQ clarified would be OK.

If it's not, then obviously the mods can delete it, and I won't be pissy, although I'll be disappointed. I do value the information that I get from here...
A wash with dry acetone is the easiest thing to do. It'll get rid of lots of toxins that are...well, even worse for you than meth.

If you want to get into recrystallizing things, by all means play around...but unless you're working with a lot of gear, expect significant losses.
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NikkiNumberNine said:
08-06-2007 00:46
I have an eight-ball, less about 2 lines, which is what it took me to decide that I had crap meth that wasn't worth doing.

Ok, maybe I'll try the dry acetone wash. This is not my idea of a good time, at all, but I may as well try it.
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NikkiNumberNine said:
08-06-2007 01:13
Quote Originally Posted by fasteddie
Minor correction: hardware alcohol is usually ethanol, with a bit of methanol to denature it, and substantial water. One is better off using "Heet" (dry gas) which is pretty pure methanol. Still needs to be dried.
Ok, I googled "Heet", so now I know what that is. You put in car gas tanks, so I assume it's a liquid, and you seem to be saying I have to dry it first? How does one do that?

fasteddie said:
08-06-2007 05:00
Get some epsom salts (magnesium sulfate heptahydrate) and put it in a pie plate. Spread it out. Put it in the oven and turn it on HIGH.

(here's yer optional Chem Lesson...MgSO4, MW = 120; 7 [hepta....get it?]H2O that's 7 times 18 (18 being the MW of H2O = water) = 126. That means that there's more WATER in the damn Epsom salts than there is Mag Sulfate)

It will partly liquify...get all bubbly...thats normal. Keep heating it. Bake the shit outta it.

At the end it'll turn into a, like, ROCK. This is magnesium sulfate, anhydrous. Powder that shit up.

Get some nice little brown, narrow mouthed bottles. Put some of your powdered magnesium sulfate, anhydrous, in each. (let it cool, first!) Now, fill one of the the bottles up with your HEET, and the other with some of that hardware store acetone. Shake them up, a few times...let em settle...that will take a couple hours.

Now, you have DRY methanol and DRY acetone.

Extinguish all cigarettes. Take your crank, wash it first with the acetone. If it's "peanut butter" crank, there'll be little dirt bombs of shit, mush them up.
it'll look like a fucking MIRACLE. All the brown waxy crap will dissolve....leaving a snowstorm of the purest of the pure. Filter it. What stays in the filter is what you want. Dry the product (the best way is to get a little saucer, put it on top of a little bowl of HOT water...leave it in a well ventilated area till there's no more acetone smell. What you have now will be LOTS better than what you started with. The acetone, that came through the filter...it's CRAP. Flush it down the toilet.

Not good enough? OK. Take your purified product, dissolve it in the dried HEET. There's stuff that don't dissolve? Then, filter again. This time, keep what comes through the filter. The stuff that stays in the filter....it's BUNK, toss it.

Now, take that stuff that comes through the filter, the HEET solution (now you're a chemist, let's call it by its right name, methanol) and evaporate it, SLOWLY. In a well ventilated area - methanol is poisonous. It won't leave poison in your gear, just make sure it all evaporates. Be patient...let it be...then, watch the crystal magic. Once it's ALL evaporated, do just one more acetone wash. Keep the stuff in the filter. Dry it, as described above.

Now, go for it!

Now, you're not some clueless rube, suckin' down what some dealer gives you.

Now, you're hip.

Now, you can look at what "came back"; armed with that knowledge, you can go to your dealer and say, if it's lots less than you started with:

BULLSHIT, MOTHERFUCKER! That last stuff you sold me

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[QUOTE = Sandbag-saya akan berfikir mereka adalah berpandukan kepada denatured alkohol (metanol) boleh didapati di kedai hardware di seluruh Amerika Syarikat.↑ tips dan kecil keselamatan maklumat... Pastikan segala-galanya baik pengudaraan... ini adalah bagaimana orang meletupkan diri dan membuat tweakers yang kelihatan seperti ahli kimia Khas-ed ^PS. berasa bebas untuk bertanya jika ada sesuatu yang tidak jelas... Saya akan melakukan yang terbaik untuk meletakkan ia dalam istilah orang biasa dan jika saya tidak boleh saya tahu ada orang lain yang boleh. PPS. Arena, jika ini adalah terlalu dekat untuk posting rasa prosedur pensintesis bebas untuk edit/delete post saya. Saya hanya PM dia link atau dua atau sesuatu yang sebaliknya. [/QUOTE]Kecil pembetulan: alkohol perkakasan yang biasanya etanol, dengan sedikit metanol untuk denature ia, dan air besar. Salah satu adalah lebih baik menggunakan "Heet" (kering gas) yang cukup murni metanol. Masih perlu dikeringkan.Mata keselamatan anda sangat baik diambil. Acetone adalah seperti bawa sebagai fuck. fasteddie berkata:08-06-2007 00:22Quote Originally Posted by NikkiNumberNineSandbag terima kasih, yang membantu banyak! Anda rock. Saya juga tidak mahu menghantar apa-apa yang saya tidak, dan saya berharap bahawa meminta untuk mempunyai sesuatu yang ada di dalam BL FAQ menjelaskan akan OK. Jika tidak, maka jelas arena boleh menghapuskannya, dan saya tidak akan pissy, walaupun saya akan kecewa. Saya menghargai maklumat yang saya dapat dari sini...Cuci dengan Cucian acetone adalah perkara yang paling mudah untuk melakukan. Ia akan menghilangkan banyak toksin yang... baik, lebih teruk lagi untuk anda daripada meth.Jika anda ingin masuk ke dalam recrystallizing perkara-perkara, oleh semua cara bermain... tetapi kecuali jika anda bekerja dengan banyak gear, menjangkakan kerugian yang besar. Avatar di NikkiNumberNineNikkiNumberNine berkata:08-06-2007 00:46Saya mempunyai satu kurang lapan-ball, kira-kira 2 baris, itulah apa yang ia membawa saya untuk membuat keputusan bahawa aku meth omong kosong yang tidak bernilai melakukan.OK, mungkin saya akan cuba basuh acetone kering. Ini bukanlah waktu yang baik, idea saya pada semua, tetapi saya juga boleh cuba. Avatar di NikkiNumberNineNikkiNumberNine berkata:08-06-2007 01:13Quote Originally Posted by fasteddieKecil pembetulan: alkohol perkakasan yang biasanya etanol, dengan sedikit metanol untuk denature ia, dan air besar. Salah satu adalah lebih baik menggunakan "Heet" (kering gas) yang cukup murni metanol. Masih perlu dikeringkan.OK, aku googled "Heet", jadi sekarang saya tahu apa itu. Anda dimasukkan ke dalam tangki gas Kereta, jadi saya menganggap ia adalah cecair, dan anda seolah-olah akan mengatakan saya perlu Cucian pertama? Bagaimana seseorang tidak berbuat demikian? fasteddie berkata:08-06-2007 05:00Dapatkan garam epsom beberapa (magnesium sulfat heptahydrate) dan memasukkannya ke dalam pinggan pie. Tersebar itu. Memasukkannya ke dalam ketuhar dan putarkannya tinggi.(yer di sini ada pilihan Chem pengajaran... MgSO4, MW = 120; 7 [hepta... mendapatkannya?] H2O yang 18 7 kali (18 sedang MW H2O = air) = 126. Ini bermakna bahawa terdapat lebih banyak air di sialan garam Epsom daripada Mag sulfat)Ia akan sebahagiannya liquify... Dapatkan Semua bubbly... thats biasa. Memastikan Pemanasan itu. Bakar shit segi itu. At the end it'll turn into a, like, ROCK. This is magnesium sulfate, anhydrous. Powder that shit up.Get some nice little brown, narrow mouthed bottles. Put some of your powdered magnesium sulfate, anhydrous, in each. (let it cool, first!) Now, fill one of the the bottles up with your HEET, and the other with some of that hardware store acetone. Shake them up, a few times...let em settle...that will take a couple hours. Now, you have DRY methanol and DRY acetone. Extinguish all cigarettes. Take your crank, wash it first with the acetone. If it's "peanut butter" crank, there'll be little dirt bombs of shit, mush them up. it'll look like a fucking MIRACLE. All the brown waxy crap will dissolve....leaving a snowstorm of the purest of the pure. Filter it. What stays in the filter is what you want. Dry the product (the best way is to get a little saucer, put it on top of a little bowl of HOT water...leave it in a well ventilated area till there's no more acetone smell. What you have now will be LOTS better than what you started with. The acetone, that came through the filter...it's CRAP. Flush it down the toilet.Not good enough? OK. Take your purified product, dissolve it in the dried HEET. There's stuff that don't dissolve? Then, filter again. This time, keep what comes through the filter. The stuff that stays in the filter....it's BUNK, toss it.Now, take that stuff that comes through the filter, the HEET solution (now you're a chemist, let's call it by its right name, methanol) and evaporate it, SLOWLY. In a well ventilated area - methanol is poisonous. It won't leave poison in your gear, just make sure it all evaporates. Be patient...let it be...then, watch the crystal magic. Once it's ALL evaporated, do just one more acetone wash. Keep the stuff in the filter. Dry it, as described above. Now, go for it!Now, you're not some clueless rube, suckin' down what some dealer gives you.Now, you're hip.Now, you can look at what "came back"; armed with that knowledge, you can go to your dealer and say, if it's lots less than you started with:BULLSHIT, MOTHERFUCKER! That last stuff you sold me